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Sure, both.

You cocky young bastids drive me to drink, every night, a glass of scotch or two, every night I tell you!! A man has to have some excuse, and for that I thank you, my friend :D.

I hear you on that situation, Chris. Agreed...sometimes there is no good path to the ground.

As I said, fell the holding tree. Not for the inexperienced, not the faint of heart, not the less than fleet of foot. Dropping a hazard tree that just fell of it's own accord and hung in a nearby stem, I've handled many like that. I have never had to do so but once from my own hung fell...

Sorta like pulling the base to one side so the top falls free to the other side.

Sure they can Chris, and with a conifer hung in a conifer, it's more likely to be able to figure out a direction that you can encourage rollout. Even if there is little likelihood to make that happen, I still say that walking the hung stem to the side will bring things to movement more readily...

OK Jim, I shouda put in a comma or some such punctuation, methinks :D. But anyway, a salami cut is an angled slice through the stem, usually with a bit of angled undercut prior to keep bar pinch at bay. The angle is usually from left to right, or right to left, relative to the lean of the...

If you absolutely HAVE TO drop the holding tree, bore the backcut, hit the release strip, and run like a rabbit. Take your saw about 10 feet, drop that boat anchor and go, go, go. Classic escape path is 45 degrees off from behind the lay. Better by far is to salami cut the hung tree, choosing...