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Indeed.

Shorter the bar, smaller the diameter timber harvested; that produces the need to harvest every blessed inch one can scavenge from each tree...just sayin' :D.

For my money and in my experience, which does include both full wrap and standard handles, the improved ergonomics offered by the full wrap is where the value lies. You don't need the option of flipping the saw over with full control in every cutting situation, but having that option is...

;) Same here Willard, felled trees are limbed, topped in the bush (we say brush). No worries, brother.

I'll revise my statement...for me, it would need wrap handles :). I don't believe bucking, which requires limbing, can be done well and as safely without a wrap handle. But I'm not limbing on the side of the tree, spinning the multi-point limb technique (and I doubt many running an 084 would...

Needs wrap handles, otherwise a great saw.