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Bump...worthwhile discussion here, for sure.

As opposed to...:? :lol::lol::lol:

Understanding the "why" of what you do is the best tool to have in your bag when you face a situation you are not familiar with...otherwise, you don't really have the resources to work out how to proceed in concocting a plan to deal with that new-to-you set of parameters. As an instructor, that...

The thought I had about the potential for root pull on that particular tree was this: since the cause of it's lean and subsequent status as a hazard was being root sprung after the strike from the falling oldgrowth, I figured the roots on the back side of the lean had to be somewhat...

That would be welcomed, Jerry.

Might be so, fair enough. Though the degree of head lean was pretty severe. I could have tripped it a bit faster, too, I think. Bottom line, like you said, it's not a saw log...and even if it was, not a particularly valuable one.

What's your line of reasoning, Redog?

Naw...we keep the blade on that 3/4 ton Ford 4x4 year around...and I keep the Warn M12000 on my rig year around, too. If I need the blade I swap trucks or get one of the other folks to bring it out. If someone else needs the winch, it's a package deal...I go with it :). I can do more things...

It was built about 1950 or so. I expect that tree sprouted after the ROW was cut.

Bounce, the theory is the same as how we arrange the placement of cuts when we're taking off a limb when climbing, making sure we don't set up a saw snatcher situation. So if I can be sure I'm lining up perfectly, even with the face cut floor is fine. But it's easier to aim just a little low...

We found ourselves with a bit of road cleanup to do after heavy rains and then a dump of wet snow put some trees down here and there. This second growth got hit by a bigger oldgrowth that went down. It sprung the roots on the second growth and leaned it out over the road, so I went up to fall...