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Thanks, Jerry. You do such a great job of putting some complex concepts in to clearly written word. I can but humbly attempt to achieve a fraction of what you do so well.

:|: I traded a couple of pm's with Lumberjack and it is clear that my post above is confusing. As I read through it, I am reminded of the wisdom of not trying to toss off a quick reply to a somewhat complicated question...especially after a couple of sips of scotch on a holiday weekend :D. I'm...

F**kin' internet expert, checking in :lol: OK, the answer is, it depends. :D Always remember that if you pitch the face out of parallel with the stem, you generate swing to the high side (relative to the stem) of the face. On a side leaner, that will compensate for the gun and generally put...