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Bumping fool :).

Indeed it would.

Here's a bump to one of those older threads I started after one of my bi-annual FS "C" sawyer recert trainings under Doug Dent. I know there's another one from a couple of years earlier, haven't located it yet. I'm up for recert again this spring, should be able to get pics and post up a new...

Takes one to know one, Willie. :lol:

As you say, Stump :D.

Mine are orange, not green. That's Floyd. We both wear a blue full brim hardhat, but his has the chevron top, mine has the parallel ridges. And he's red haired, I'm white haired :D. In case you hadn't noticed. :lol:

That's because that ain't me!

Check this one from my first post of this thread...not 1/4 mile, but a solid 50+ feet, not particularly steep either.

Thanks, Justin and Justin. I'd just add that the butt of the tree generally won't shoot backwards off the stump unless the upper part of the tree strikes an obstacle out front, like another tree. They very seldom just spontaneously shoot backwards :D. But if they did, stumpshot might help...

Frank had to double cut that face, and he ended up with an uneven angled cut, rather than a smooth plane, and one side had a wide dutchman, not a classic overlapping kerf, but a sort of gap that would have closed somewhat earlier than the rest of the face. He erred by telling Dent he was...

I'm always happy to discuss falling techniques, and seldom have been accused of being thin skinned. I may have answered in a snappish manner because I addressed all of your questions in my initial post. It appeared to me you looked at the pics and failed to read the text. I'm sorry if I was...

Yeah, well, we've touched on this subject before...he has mellowed, but he's still the most arrogant, opiniated, and profane man I ever met. Just not as much as he used to be :D. But if he knows you know your stuff, has seen you perform well repeatedly, then he's going to treat you fine...

Well, like I told you earlier, he seemed receptive. If nothing else, y'all can have a laugh recalling the old days :).

Yup, Dave, I sure do recall you posting about this when you mentioned the sidehill cut technique. I sure hope you'll be at the Wraptor gig so you can draw me picture of that one. Any luck with contacting Dent?

I have been exposed! Wait...that's not a pretty mental picture. :|:

:roll: Read my description of the tree, the surroundings and attendant hazards, why I faced and back cut it the way I did...can you not understand my reasoning? Doing as you suggest on a snag as soft as this one would almost certainly have caused it to fail during placement of a deeper face. I...

Oh, great...:what: 8)

Right you are, Stig...I recall your german cut. Thanks for the estimate on improved hinge function, that's nice to have quantified by an experienced hand. Those high stumps are the norm when falling hazard trees...to give the sawyer a step or two advantage in exiting the stump, and making it...

Makes perfect sense to me that it could help. The old cutter who I first saw use this technique used it when he had dead or somewhat decayed wood at the hinge that he knew would not flex as well as green...this was in big conifers out here in Oregon. If the hinge wood was poorer on one side...

I prefer the conventional so I don't have to eat as much wood chip being spit out by the saw when I start the sloping cut :D.