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Best case of hideous you ever saw, I betcha :lol:

Hey!!! I resemble that remark! ;)

Man, oh man...:lol:. You got me there, Dark. Missed that sly reference completely!

Not ever been much of an issue for me...might be because I tend to follow the FS ppe mandate for long sleeves when working in the field, including climbing of course. I'd never spur without wearing gloves and a sturdy long sleeved shirt.

Musta never had to spur climb a big tree then, or struggled hard when ya did, bro...:)

Something about having taught baby climbers for a couple of decades, mayhaps? Thanks for the kind words, Brian. :D

I'll add a few pointers...note that Willie said "lean back a little". Take that literally, as leaning back very far past vertical makes the work much harder...it tires your back and legs because we are designed to stand upright, and it tires your arms because you have to haul yourself so far...