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  1. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    It isn't just the hidden treasures at ground level like rocks .You get some of those fat yard trees you might have 24" of tree and 6 feet of buttress roots .In town sugar maples are terrible about that .Not too tall but with plump stumps .
  2. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    I'm serious now .Those Mac 610's and Homelite Xl12's which were the fire wooders didn't have any dogs unless you installed them . Now I'm with the rest of you I like dogs .Even the kind that wags their tail .
  3. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    The trend in the early -mid 70's on firewooders were no dogs .But you're talking 20 inch bars on 60 cc saws not big powerfull saws that could drag you right over a log if it got away from you .
  4. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    I did find the time to fire up the 084 and exercised it a little bit ,didn't cut any thing .The bar past the dogs is just a tad over 41" so maybe that's where it came from .Makes sense because nobody in their right mind would run a bar that large on that size of saw without a set of dogs I...
  5. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    You won't see any shorter than 16" unless it's on a trim saw in these parts .Most use a 20" sometimes a 24" on a mid size saw .The 066 size generally run a 36" .Those larger which are few and far between either a 36" or larger .
  6. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    Coincidently the 60 Dl used by Stihl,and Husqvrana is the only driver count that interchanges with the 10 series of McCulloch .Which just happens to work out great for me .Through the years I've amassed a tidy little sum of them .Oddly enough I seldom use a 16" bar --all for naught .
  7. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    That isn't it at all .The bar shape and size are the same as if it were originally made for an 084 to begin with .The bar slot had just been altered when it was on the west coast evidently so it would work on an 084 instead of most likely an 066 .This bar has been used before on this same saw...
  8. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    I just wondered because it seems odd to use some off the wall measurement like 41 It's definately an Oregon bar .Fact it's an 066 style milled out to accept the larger 084 mount size .It's an Oregon that in fact came from Oregon via flea bay.
  9. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    Why in the world does Stihl call it a 41" and Oregon calls it a 42" ? They 're both 123 drivers of .404 .
  10. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    All this talk of longer bars I finally got around to hanging the 42" on the 084 .Had a hell of time starting the big boy as you always get some stale gas left in the carb and usually flood the damned things right out of the chute .Which of course I did . Got the bar and chain on but since I had...
  11. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    There was guy from Cincinnati that showed up at Bill Poors' GTG last fall with about 5-6 foot of bar on an 090 .Big wide thing and it didn't bow a bit . I can't remember what Fred aka "Stihl boy "had on an 084 but I'm thinking 6 foot ,it was a rather narrow bar .So I suppose depending what time...
  12. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    Long long time ago maybe 1963-64 I was on the dumb end of two gear drives .A big old Mall owned by my uncle and some big old McCulloch owned by a small mill owner I helped part time . I think those were probabley 48" bars with helper handles . Looking back that was probabley just about the swan...
  13. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    A seven foot bar is extreme and likely there are very few people who have ever ran with one let alone even seen one .I have not .
  14. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    What like this ?
  15. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    While there is a certain novelty of cutting with a long bar as seldom as I've done it I gained great respect for those who did so on a regular bassis. Damn that isn't nothing but bull work .
  16. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    The stuff files with 36 thou depth on the rakers .Pulls a hellish big chip if it's filed correctly .
  17. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    Well 1/2" on a gear drive gets a hell of a bite .If you don't hook a dawg it will pull you with the saw .
  18. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    I think it's so seldom used unless a person lived in Vancouver island or some area of the PNW that a person would get proficient in the use of a long bar . Maybe only 4-5 times has the bar in my avatar been used and maybe same the 42" for the 084 if that many .Fact I have a chain for the 084...
  19. Al Smith

    Tips for keeping long bars level

    That 50 year old 48" bar on the saw in my avatar doesn't bend at all .Heavy duty Judy that one .
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