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Meh, splice it with a locking brumnel and a decently long bury. We (Nick) slid a kernmantle's cover (from Pantheraba) over the exposed core to protect it. The cover does next to nothing for the strength.

WTH would you use 5/8" for? I have 1/2", 300ish feet on the longest line, 22klbs MBS I believe.

They do. The kinds I have is Validator II and Warp Speed, both from Samson.

200lbs less than 1/2 Stable Braid w/o the knot. Not dressing and setting the knot means when it's shock loaded it sets quickly with alot of friction. Friction=heat and we alread discussed the low melting point which leads to the 90% reduction.

Yes. "Shock load" is a very broad term though. Everything we do generates some level of shock.

Note, information added to post 39 to clarify my point that 1/2 Amsteel is about as strong" as 9/16"-5/8" Stable braid.

Here's an article showing a 60% strengh LOSS using Endura Braid from NER. The difference here would be the cover increases the bend radius, Amsteel, not having a cover, would loose more, figure 70% loss. http://www.neropes.com/Resources/sail_reprint.pdf Note, they tie their bowline...

Here's a link to a book published 7 years ago. http://www.faqs.org/abstracts/Sports-and-fitness/Tying-knots-in-high-modulus-line-a-risky-proposition-Rig-failure.html I haven't been able to find it online though.

Amsteel rocks on a GRCS, provided you're lifting and you lower slowly. Still I'd like a poly covering to take the heat of lowering. Look into bend radius. Poly ropes like 4:1 or greater (2" sheave for a 1/2" rope). High mod lines like 8:1 or greater. I've developed my knowledge through...

Yep.

The ropes they use are poly and nylon, both class 1 (regular, non high mod) ropes. Even still the construction of the rope, tightness of the braid, and how the knot is dressed can play a difference. Figure a bowline retains 70% of the strength of the normal poly rope. An exception is...

Nearly all (and maybe all) high modulus lines require a bend radius roughly 2x it's poly counterpart. Knots are the rope bent over itself (1:1) whereas high mod lines like 8:1 or greater, although there is some wiggle room. For lifting slings, Amsteel is great. Just because they don't stretch...

Jamin, read the link you put up for strength loss in ropes. Specifically read the construction of the ropes they tested. Not trying to be cryptic. Instead of just telling you the answer, I'm trying to help you understand "why."

You're dangerously wrong. Intermingling unrelated statistics doesn't make new statistics. Your bowline in 1/2" Amsteel is about as strong as (at most) 9/16-5/8" Stable braid with a running bowline. Probably closer to 1/2-9/16" Stable. ETA: 60-70% reduction in strength using a bowline. When...

That's a good idea MB! The Jeep is great for getting around town, but for highway journey's it wasn't as good as a car. The community college is 25 miles away, the university is twice that. The fact that the Civic gets better than twice the milage did factor in, although now gas prices are...

Need to wait another couple years when that wreck goes off my record and my insurance rates fall because of that and I'll be 7 months shy of 25, which is the next age bracket with lower rates.

I miss my Jeep! Lost it a year ago today:(

Ha has it been used since 05 Dave?

The only thing I use my 1/2" Validator II for is with the GRCS to pull trees over or lift big nuggets.

Nope. Black widow is just renamed skinny Amsteel, made from Dyneema, which melts at 305*F or less. Dyneema is slick, kevlar isn't as friendly to the hands. Kinda an expensive rope to use as a dog run eh?