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I agree. Though that evil, s#%@ that you and others in part of the country deal with is far, far worse. One of my many hard lessons learned in LA was that I may not get Poison oak, But P. ivy will make me suffer bad.

Al, Almost ivyless. Still have some ivy, just no poison:) Not many yesrs ago some of the urban areas had loads of big ivy trees. After about a decade of over a hundred companies removing ivy, it is lots better. Now a guy might only climb a few bad ivy trees a year. Used to climb one every damn...