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It is just plain healthy. We eat way too many carbs. It wrecks your energy cycle, etc. I need to cut way back myself. I lean more direction primal than atkins, but not a big difference (I don't think). Main thing is kick out those carbs and eat lots of food with yummy, healthy proteins and...

Jeez, pissed up drunk climbers. I had an English coworker pass out cold, sleeping after a night of booze and lots o cocaine. Here in Texas I had a really nice guy come work for me..... he started to crash as he was still on methadone.... passed out cold in the tree.

Wow!! Lordy, if you had 3 wishes, she would make you forget the other two!!!

if you try to take something that you have not earned there is a penalty....... In the case of roids, it will be the loss of your neck and penis... plus you'll deflate and likely have man boobs....

Yeah, and I see that it takes about 1/3 year of exercise for one to start wearing a douche-bag choker necklace..... That would be way cooler if it had year #2...... with Steroids!!

Glad I am hitting the gym and wow my hunger is way up... but no freaking way I could work out and climb all day 4-5 days a week like I used to. Not for a while anyway. Ouch

Chucky - That rawks!! I owe you a beer. Keeping up with hittin the gym and eating... not GOMAD but we'll see...... I am suprised how fast a workout kills me in the gym. did shoulders today and back. I wore out fast! I like taters :)

They are the tallest nation. I think the Maasai would be the tallest people.

Fat is good for you!! Lots of energy.... I hate that it is hard to find yogurt that isn't fat free...... The good thing about cutting all that fat free crap out of your life is that then you are satisfied with much smaller portions.

Fat in food rawks!!!!!! It makes you feel full and keeps you from eating so much. It is all this fat free/sugar free shite that keeps Americans so fat... (ok, a big part..there is that activity thing too)

you do sound confused.... Ok, but do you think the stuff you buy at the store is the same thing that calves drink :what: since when is cheese unhealthy? The good: This food is a good source of Protein, Calcium and Phosphorus. 8)

Nice logic but don't confuse the stuff we drink with the stuff babies of any species drinks. Oh, and cheese? You try to stay away from that too? Ice cream? Meh - nature ain't that good of an example. ;)

Yeah, protein is overrated.. Sorry for not clicking, but one can guess that notmilk.com is not going to have a very open minded view. I prefer to use the Dutch as an example - they have a high dairy consumption. I mean cheese too..... real cheese... not the stuff Americans call cheese. And...

5'10" ....... Butch.... I hear an Austrian accent??

Carl... I wish you luck with the milk thing. A buddy of mine cut out dairy as he is a milkaholic and it really helped him lean out. Me, I could even give up meat (gasp) but no way I could give up milk and cheese.

I wish I would have taken a pick too... but I have several of me and the kid, etc. It was actually looking at myself in a pic that made me think WTF!!! Gain!! I never though I would be here. In my mid 30s I expected to be fighting off a gut... not trying to gain. But, I guess like most...

mmm..... burger!

Yup, just got back from 24hr Fitness. I hate the big box gym but my local gym ain't what it used to be.... plus the membership was cheap. Yeah, I am gonna get back to banging the weights. Losing muscle was fun at first - my run time improved in a crazy way. I need the weights for my...

Yes, and isn't that what I said you said? :D No, no maybes about it but I guess my poorly made point was maybe he used roids in the 80s but he is twice the size now that he was in the 80s. The majority of his bulk was put on after any tom foolery with a needle. I miss working out at Hyde...

frig that bro. Dave ain't on the needle. Maybe back in the 80s (like you said). But he works out hard. I have worked out on the bench next to him many a day in the years I worked out at HPG (Hyde Park Gym). Even if it was the needle..... Gotta give it to him for hanging on to it sans needle...