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  1. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    5!! That thang ain't goin nowhere!
  2. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    good idea. O and I hope they can wait for a 2nd opinion (which might mean better work at half the cost).
  3. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    Huge looking bolt high up in that tree. The BMP is $10, but reading is so dam hard to do...
  4. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    Having watched the repeated callusing in those teeny holes, I'll take that conundrum over the "Big fat hole for an eyebolt, higher material costs, and more time and effort" fiasco. :P
  5. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    I watched wedgegrips get tested at the PLP lab, with the rest of the A300 committee, in 2009(?). the 3/8" EHS broke at about 15,700# of pull. Wedgegrips held. Any selectivity in publishing (if there is any) might be due to corporate pressure to discourage change, or PLP's own marketing. but...
  6. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    "Put 10k lbs of pull on Rigguy's termination, and of course the cable fails first, cuz the wedge grip cut it like a pair of dykes!" Jon, your rant would be less incoherent if you stop referring to Wirestops as Wedgegrips. The cables do NOT break near the end, so the strand separation...
  7. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    flush he's mixed up the names. wedgegrips do NOT require untwisting the 7-strand cable, but they did come out after 1950, so he'll find some defect in them no doubt...but Jon is in big company; the ultraconservative corporations that dominate A300 give similar short shrift to terminal...
  8. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    O and sotc, the Wye Oak failed not because of lightning but because they put in >2 MILES of cable (per MD DNR), but never made a reduction cut, not wanting to violate I/USA dogma. The shell wall was measured over a 12-year span. It did not change in that time. the trunk broke around the point...
  9. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    flash thanks for reminding me to empty inbox, and to restore my sig line; not sure where that went off to! Send me a contact via website and I can send up a generic bid with info. http://www.historictreecare.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Cable-Thoburn-Oak-DB-AA.pdf
  10. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    sotc yes wedgegrips have never failed me either. Using them to drag logs must have been quite a test! Valley, Cable heavy yes, and rod heavier. The Kile Oak SE of Indy is a testament to wasted $teel--and a magnet for lightning! Apparently, no lessons learned from the Wye Oak. :( Jomo I...
  11. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    Sure, temporary ropes are great but who's gonna put em in? OP said "those cables are pretty high. I'd be shaking like a poodle poopin' peach pits.", which was positively poetic. We're always hopin' the wind don't blow just wrong. No recent cracking evident in this one. I also might be up...
  12. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    I'll be in Cincinnati in October to present at KY-ISA and can do it then. Experience suggests that I'll be <1/2 the price of that company in yellow trucks, and do it as well or better. They always overspec the invasive technology, to C their A. I'll need some basic help if you are available to...
  13. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    $700 for substandard work--that crew should be invited back to do it right n/c!
  14. treelooker

    Cabling question for Ohio Champ American Basswood

    Not sure a split trunk requires rodding, when cabling restricts torsion enough. ANSI and the BMP are way overzealous imo and don't adequately consider biodynamics. Through cabling with terminal fasteners is the way to go. Find an old school installer hahahaha News Flash Jon---they are all...
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