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Offset Gaffs? Opps I am not in that camp. Thanks for letting me know dude, that could have been trouble.

Hey Brian I been using the Buck Ti with the super wrap pads/ metal inser for five years and they work great, but wanted to see what the fuss was about the caddy pads. Did not work so I am back on my original combo. Always liked the look of the Kleins though and soon need a second pair, might...

Thank God because thats what I am going to do. Just wanted another opinion. My other skinny guys don't like them either ( they use spurs to clean coconut trees ). Thanks.

Hmm, I really wonder? Butch if this was jeoprody I think I might be able to collect some coin. Nice cast pads BTW, but I seem to still prefer super wraps with steel inserts, just got the cadillacs but haven't got used to them yet on my Buck Ti climbers. They are lighter for sure. Sorry to derail...