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Maybe you are an engineer, you just don't know it yet.

I'm sorry Burnham I was confused, I should have said the slack coming out the side which is what I prefer. I have been using the twisted clevis since I switched from the old flipline hitch to using an ascender which is probably why I like it. I got a flipline from Gary which had a carabiner on...

I have looked for them at our local hardware store and only found a very small twisted clevis. It's a conspiracy. I got mine from Sherrill.

I have one and I like it. Makes the slack come down from the ascender.