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Lol. Y'all sound mighty clean to me. Good on yah.

My point was it's the same boot. It's a Viberg full-leather non-logging boot then, exactly the same as the one they make for logging except for no safety toe. And they're sold at sawshops. They can call it what they want everyone knows where it's getting used.

That is not true at all. Viberg makes non-safety toe full leather loggers. In my avatar pic I'm wearing chaps, I tried that out for a bit. Now I'm back to wearing cutting pants everyday, Stihl with only the protection in the front none of the crap wrapping around my calves.