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Steve check out the 'origins' part of this wiki page on CO2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_the_Earth%27s_atmosphere It would seem to be in conflict with the page that you quoted. Not suprising that climate change info might be in conflict with one another. Although I've...

I will leave it to you Willie. Possibly Frans could bring it back for you when he's done with me.:D

Your post here Frans. The first part? Why bother mentioning it? The second part, about cycles being cycles is what I was referring to as being shortsighted. We are entering a period of rapid change. Rapid change is when things get harsh for survival. You're right there have been plenty of...

This is exactly what you just did in responding to my post. Or maybe you just couldn't understand what I had typed. Either way same result.

Whatever man. I guess then just interjecting random thoughts into threads, totally not based on or at all understanding what is being discussed is smart in your opinion. It's not stupid to discuss the climate change of the planet within our own lifetimes when it's changing within our...

Frans the funny thing is that view point is actually the one that's short sighted. Check this guy out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock And before all of you 'don't change nothing' people start crying about environmentalists out for personal gain. Check this guy out, and...

Heck if the world continues to heat up (for whatever reason) I won't have to worry about that.8)

I agree wholeheartedly with that Dave. The fellow who invented the GAIA theory has written a new book 40 years later titled, the vanishing face of GAIA a final warning. I beleive as the author(whose name eludes me right now:|:) that we are beyond forked. Move north or move to elevation cause...

It's like this. Washington as a state is looking at their emissions. One way that they could reduce emissions, as a state, is to plant more trees. It's not actually making anyones tailpipe or factory burn/work cleaner but the overall end result is reduced emissions, as a state.

Cars exhaust contain co2, trees absorb it. So they may not reduce the actual emissions when they exit the tailpipe, but having more trees around helps to take care of the emissions that are coming out anyways. So when a bug comes along and kills millions of trees it's bad for our planets C02...

I agree with your points but certainly a huge factor in the outbreak is that it no longer gets cold enough, fast enough in the winter to kill any of the buggers off. Now whether that is man caused or a natural cycle of the earth it's still playing a huge factor in the spread of these bugs up...

Not that big of a stretch but the epidemic of the bugs has gotten to the point where they're eating trees they're not really designed/evolved to Dentroctonus bark aside. If you read the linked article they're closely studying reproduction success or lack there of in the Spruce trees. The lack...

No, no y'all are trying to confuse the issue. Trees are good for co2. Scroll down a tiny bit on this page and read. There was also a good article in the last arborist news that I got explaining it. http://www.coloradotrees.org/benefits.htm

It's totally decimated huge tracts of forest up here. This bug is really, really bad news. But it makes me alot of money too, so I have somewhat mixed feelings about it.:D

That's just not true in this case Frans. As I said I'm living in the thick of it. http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/06/28/pine-beetle.html

The pine beetle will turn to other species when there's no pine to be had.

I'm right in the thick of it. But remember, global warming or climate change or whatever you want to call it doesn't really exist.:roll: