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no need to apologize 8)

sounds like a humbolt?

here gary i found you a "proper dutchman: :D <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1_4OPTbATOI&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1_4OPTbATOI&rel=1"...

the point at which either cut passes the hinge

gary i wouldnt call that a dutchman, just need some clean up. a dutchman would be if your horizontal cut went past the vertical and or the vertical went past the horizontal

good job gary, thanks for the pics