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Spitting in the wind Sean, kinda like me in the Murph thread:banghead:

No idea where that came from. Stark raving was meant as a joke but I'm feeling it's more foresight. Pardon me, I'm parked in front of another victim I need to plunder, gotta go!

Your honor, Stark Raving tree service reduced my tree 20 years ago and said I didn't need A cable. The tree just split and killed my dog, cat AND gold fish, I'm suffering now, help me. I'm guessing you only prune a tree once in thirty years and never go back...

No doubt, shut down discussion

The line is industry standards. That wiki link apparently is based off of 2 studies, 1973 & 1990. Yes, there is basis and fact there but you're either ahead of the world in your understanding or using your observations and a little science to create a hypothesis and preaching it as fact. Maybe...

2 holes ;) I just heard you say you don't cable to buildings :) No idea what your post means other than your the smartest?

Very included hasn't failed yet. Keeping the tree from hyper-extending could keep it from failing altogether. But then again is it such a weak attachment that shear weight down could fail? Hard to tell without being there but I rarely go steel without an active crack.

Don't drill if you don't have to. I'd splice loops or buy eye and eye slings