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Thanks Pete that's the idea thinking hard;) I just know there are so many variables but is there no science in testing average amount of force to break trees? I found one file in my research from 1908 about it but it was more about dry lumbers. It did averages on breaking in cross grain and...

In a recent removal (latest round of work pics) and countless times before I have wondered should I rig it so the weight falls on the defect side or the non defect side. Often it amounts to what direction will load the spline of the tree (I hope that comes off right) maybe tension and...