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The one on my old employers 18 tonne truck is about 6 years old now.

It's ok training before they actually get to site & them being out of danger, but they cannot perform until they get used to there environment - Yes, training is the footing for knowledge, but until they have time to develop the skill for themselves, all they have is training!

What kind of time frame do you train them over Sean? I think it takes a good year or two to train a decent groundie, who comes with the right stuff to start with & 5 years to be a rounded production climber capable. It takes time to learn how tree work "feels" & how a site runs. It is an alien...