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Maybe that's the difference. A lot of the people rolling through surveying were just there for the income. One guy I had really wanted to be surveyor, but was dumb as a brick; nice guy too. He was one the ones that had me eying trucks :^D

You guys have "problem" students? For awhile, it felt like I was on permanent teaching duty for surveying, and ones that turned out "acceptable" felt like a huge win. Some made me want to step in front of a truck and end it all. Same things over and over. New day comes, and everything from the...