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I guess ya'll are missing the part where the pin is holding all the tounge weight as opposed to just the push pull. In addition, unless my eyes decieve me, the tube that goes inside grapple's tube is smaller, thus there is now rotation for the minisule amount it can wiggle forward and aft. But...

I was thinking more of the weight causing the hole to wallow out. Then again, I doubt you'll use it that much?

Crap, that reminds me I've gotta work with the mini this afternoon. Luckly it isn't that much, but I best get to it. Looking good. You may find you need to upsize the pin depending on how much you use it and how much weight you're putting on it.

My Bandit doesn't have chit for tongue weight when it's sitting level. The manlift has 4-500lbs I'm guessing, more than we can pick up by hand, but the grapple does it with ease (unless I aint on the back of it).

Mine's only 3. I have a (slightly) harder time moving the manly lifter because of the fairly heavy tounge weight although the jockey wheel on the jack would make that easier, it's a pita to drop.

I move my chipper about by grabbing the tounge just behind the pindle, and pushing the pindle against the back plate of the grapple. You won't be pulling your chipper very much, not enough ass. I move mine about a goodly bit like this on uneven, bumpy terrain without issue.