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There also wider than the rubberized deals making them more comfortable, to me anyways.

I really like them.

Good! How'd they feel?

It was meant to be!

I'm looking hard at chains. We rarely need them in WI but when the need arises shit just got real and you're stuck in some five foot deep drift.

A snowmobile would be nice on the golf course we have about 20" or so on the ground, had to 4x4 up the cart path to the work area. Kinda fun we ran two trucks incase one gets into trouble.

That's not a bad idea! I envision a pair of Neos with a hole out the side for the gaff. Fairly lightweight easy on easy off over a pair of Wesco's. The waterproof fabric they use should add to the warmth. When out of the tree take them off, pull the spurs off, pull the Neos back on, and get back...

Sorel's suck in the spurs might as well stand barefoot in them, no arch support, Hoffman pac's are better. I can't remember if they have a steel shank or not. And they all feel chunky and loose.