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It has nothing to do with forces involved but I usually shy away from base ties because I am scared to have that second leg of the climbing line in the tree. I have already forgotten about it while cutting. I have never been close to cutting it, but who knows when that might change. When I do...

I should have said it flies in the face of conventional reason.... Just because it's conventional doesn't necessarily mean it's true. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

And I'm not trying to be a jerk here. I know what you guys are saying but what I just read on this page of threads could be misunderstood...... Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

What you guys are saying flies in the face of reason.... Unless you mean you always use multiple redirects. It's broad statements like this that cause people to think disbelieve everything SRT guys say. We have had several speakers over the years come to WI and talk about how great SRT is...

For safety sake, I always figure 2x my weight with a base tie. I have found that when I use redirects with a base tie, the angle isn't that great for me to feel comfortable with smaller tips. When I do want a smaller tip with a base tie, I usually have to throw to hit several suitable redirects...

Base tie will put about double the force on the tip. Cinch tie will be the same as ddrt. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2