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You might have a point there- I haven't taken my long johns off yet this year.

Thanks for all the good responses!

That's sounding more like it, imo, for the rods. If you are getting $600+ for a cable, well how bout come to CT and enjoy your new sales position;)

300 hundo is good for the cable but $150 for all that drilling and screwing and etc etc? Cant your average cable be put in far faster and probably a bit cheaper on materials than a big ass rod?

Even typing "4' drill bit" makes me think, yeah, nah, its not going to happen via me. Call Bartlett, they won't bat an eye about pruning this tree, add another cable, install 2 bolts $2500.00

Thanks B. I'm more interested in the bracing stuff- 4' drill bit, etc.

I probably come across as a low class tree guy tree killer in the last post but, idk, people aren't going to want to pay for bolting and more cables. Most of the time i'm a very strong proponent of saving trees. Ok, here's a question that lots of you here can probably render a good opinion on...

Dang I have another one that came up. I got rid of the last one, too busy. I really don't want to buy all the gear and go thru the hoops. Its a huge ash, gonna die soon anyway from eab, they won't treat it, they're afraid of it already, too close to neighbor's property who hates them already...

That makes sense too

Good info and good decision re the stub, imo.

I appreciate the responses. :thumbup:

Ok that makes sense. Although most if not all splits will never heal strongly so if cables will always be needed and the split will always be there, why bolt it? Bolts seem like a lot of work for little likely return.

Ha, The Swing! I know there are BNPs etc, I'm just wondering, from those with hands on experience, how bracing does much good beyond what cables are going to do.

This came up OTJ recently. A large white oak with a high large crotch with an old split in it, showing signs of minor increased splitting. I normally recommend cables as they have the most leverage/strength. Are bolts thru the crotch helpful? I've always wondered because they are so low they...