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Just gotta scroll down a little, at least on my puter.

I tagged you elsewhere, wondering about your take on this article

Btw, too bad Denver has disappeared. He started this thread off with a bang.

Is that is the Tongass?

Whereabouts?

Beech are great trees fo sho

I was making the princely sum of 8 bucks/hour to set chokers. Indeed 2 hour commutes 1 way were not unusual. Used to get up at 2am to start in woods at 5 am. I avoided some of those commutes by camping on site or nearby in VW van.

Agreed

I was always impressed that the pnw fallers only worked 6 hours a day in da bush

I'm not positive but I don't think we stopped for lunch

Jedidiah, I don't know about all that stuff you and B were arguing about but we might gots ya here re the gutted hinge. Fwiw, I'm a fan of its use in the right situation, many of which are mentioned above

Well said, sir :drink:

cool pics, Bermy. Somehow I missed them before

Great pics, Gary, great points. 8)

That is huge. Stig, since you do martial arts and wood cutting, do they ever remind you of each other. Ya know, all the little things one does when cutting trees to make it easier, more efficient, safer, faster. And then in bjj for example, 'no don't grab the arm here, grab it higher just above...

With an avatar like that, you're allowed to shoot your mouth off all you want:lol:

2 stage is way simpler for me. Plus, in a residential setting, you aren't doing all that cutting at ground level with different angles of attack with both a pulling chain and pushing chain which will likely lead to a dull saw vs. cutting alap in the second stage with one cut using a pulling...

Those are some mighty low stumps! Nice pics!

Its funny, seeing those pics of stripped land in Aussi, well without Graeme's insight plus his extreme credibility, I'd would likely think very poorly of that scenario. But with Graeme explaining it, I'm like, hmmm, so that's how its done. Makes good sense! :lol:

Great pics and info, Graeme, thank you. Have you ever seen Reg's vids of topping old growth for purposes of helicopter logging? Epic vids.