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Thank you, new sop. Learning everyday here at the house, thx guys!!

It also doesn't help that I'm doing nothing but hardwoods usually, and almost none are just spars unless i made it that way. So I'm too thick with a 10 percent on full hardwood trees with enough branches to make side lean easy to miscalculate or substantial? I very rarely drop full trees because...

I stick with the 10 percent of thickness for my hinge size, and don't usually attempt to just muscle stuff, and never fight a thick hinge for no reason. I figure out the approximate line pull to overcome back weight, and if it's well within the wll of the line and my pulling device, i go with...

Sean, I'm not sure i follow....?

Welcome to the house!! I have a hank of 5/8 treemaster i use for heavy work, never needed to catch anything more than that in the midwest. Also about the best stuff ever for natural crotching, which i utilize as much as i can. I am a wimp tho and don't take pieces the size of cars :lol: Tape...