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I expected that it was much, much, much closer to Carl's figure. Now add into that space (smaller than my house) the necessary farm land, manufacturing facilities, mining, water/ septic/sewer, etc, per person.

If it can not change much, call it a win. Its going to go way downhill.

Population will explode, until it implodes.

There needs to be a population reduction!

Yep.

I think a lot, not all, working poor people are in crisis management mode a lot of the time... Childcare, keeping the wheels turning in a shitty vehicle to get to work, long public transportation commutes, making this month's rent, no emergency credit...

All about cost of living for the area. Well, largely about that.

Wait, Wait, Wait a minute. Are you suggesting that there is no free lunch?

how do you pay? sub the other parts at bid price? 'Sancho' isn't getting a raise!

For me, nothing, really. $15 is minimum wage already, to show up with some skills, work hard, take training, prove competence and get raises. Our market doesn't have the cost of living of Seattle. Probably making $15 in Seattle is like making $10/ hour in Olympia. Everything cost much more. I...