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I can see it now " hold that dang rope and stop chasing butterflys!! No no no, the rope going to the tree, the yellow one, no, that one is orange.... and in the truck, no, this yellow one to the tree, yeah, you have to pull it tight, no, other way, away from the tree, tight, that's loose... ok...

Much the same here, sometimes the only person who doesn't want to damage things is me, distant second is the HO. Even with permission I won't do willful damage. If the HOs are not interested in a good clean safe job that kinda indicates the type of employees available around here.

I may be speaking out of my ass. But the impression I get is that Sean has a HUGE amount of built up skill and ideas to get things done, in it's simplest form if the employee/help would just follow the instructions to the letter then the day will end quicker, safer and more profitable for...

Usual answer up here is "easy, throw hundreds of thousands of dollars and things will get better".

Sean, I feel for you. I get it. Situation sure sucks. I'm no good for anything else, I'm in no position to offer advice.

A great mix of views and ideals on here.

IMHO sometimes companies don't have the cash available to have prolonged training or absorb employee mistakes. That's the situation I see up here often.

I was told by a business major college kid that all I do is hire a certified person and all will be good. :S