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My kids do not have permission to use it for that very reason. They always yell shock her shock her. I explain to them she is not a remote control dog. She listens better then my six year old........he could use a collar too.:P What I have discovered is the page(vibrate)feature is a very gentle...

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/cRT8dZcx3F4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> pretty damn good

cool http://www.dogtrastore.com/280ncp.html couple of thoughts, The collar I bought has adjustable levels from 1 to 127, I noticed a tingle myself at about 40( very tame IMO) also has a vibratiting page. after 4 15min sessions, I only have to nick the collar once or twice...maybe a couple of...

to avoid interaction with an unexpected Bear/turkey or whatever motivates here to bolt. I have made great strides with the prong type collar for leashed walks she relieably will sit and stay, heel but if she is off leash......good bye. I just spent 15 min using the ecollar....nicked her a few...

yeah.....adopted a new white lab from fam who could not handle her.... she has come a long way in two weeks gonna start ecollar today... you do any specific work with it first?

dogtra.com

anyone here use one to train thier dog? http://www.dogtra.com/