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This is fun. We are all getting the chance to learn together. It's good that you took the others apart to look at them. Now you KNOW what you are climbing on. love nick

That's the easiest way, when it is possible. The way I splice beeline/hrc, I don't take the cover completely off the core, so it's easier to do this mobius style locking brummel. If the rope is very firm, I sure don't mind pulling 100' of rope through to form a good splice, though! love nick...

If I didn't have a way of break testing them to find out what I was dealing with, I'd just toss them. I feel like a psychiatrist that just had a major breakthrough with a patient. We're just made a huge step to getting the issue solved! love nick

Cool- I'm glad we're all seeing this the same way. In the bottom splice, I did a standard locking brummel. The tail goes through the standing end, the standing end goes through the tail, then bury the tail. No inverting or anything. This is the way the locking brummell To make the top...

To the eyes of anyone checking out this thread, which of the following two splices seem more like the one Jim just posted. (I do recognize that this post could be taken with a very condescending tone. I do not intend it to be this way. I think this could turn to a great learning opportunity...

those are still inverted and they shouldn't be. All you need to do is pass the tail through the standing part, then standing part through the tail, then bury it. You're combining steps from two different sets of directions here. It is leaving the finished product distorted and no doubt, weaker...

Jim- A few issues with your photos (nice photos, by the way). First- the amount of your taper seems fine. Shorter than what yale recommends, but longer than what I do on my splices. For your locked brummel, if you are doing the standard lock brummel where the tail goes through the standing...

jtrouse- I'm still not clear on what your tapered tail is looking like. Are you saying the tail overall is 8 1/2" long, with the last 2 1/2 inches tapered/barbered? That leaves 6" still intact? A pic or diagram would be nice. love nick

WOOPS!!! I'll go fix that. That question was directed at jtrouse. Sorry Jamie! love nick

A barber taper is when you just fan out the last couple three inches and cut it off at a 45* angle. jtrouse- you have to have enough buried inside the rope to make sure it will hold the tail together if it gets pulled on hard. 3" could be fine, depending on how you tapered it. Post a pic...

Leon hit that one right. A decent ceramic knife will run you at least $25 or $35. I bought mine about 1.5 years ago and have cut tons of beeline and HRC and a few other things with it and it shows no signs of dulling yet. If you don't like that idea, get a regular utility knife with...

10mm Beeline should be spliced as Class I double braid using Yale's industrial polyester double braid splice. 8mm, you can bury a shorter tail on the splice. I do about 3" on my personal splices, and about 5-6" on splices for other people. Blinky- do you like having the rope stiffer? Does it...