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Nowadays when I show someone how to backup an 8 or other device, I only teach the "backup below the device" method. I think it is perfect, or very near perfect. There are other backup methods, but they can find out about them on their own! love nick

I disagree. I don't think we here bear the responsibility to looking out for the other guy. We present information as we see fit or desire, but in the end, it's caveat emptor. I don't think forum visitors really look at a thread like this and go, "well Burnham seems to like this thing, and...

Frans, I'm not quite sure I'm following you there. The same reason applies to the 8, but if you do a cross country poll and gather up all the 8's in tree trucks, and gather up all the racks, you will have many, many 8's and only a few racks. It's not the lack of lock-off feature that is...

Frans, I would regard the rack and the 8 to be very similar. Both can be locked off with just the rope, both are more safely used if you put a prusik above or below it as a separate safety. love nick

Are additional bars just to accomodate heavier loads? love nick

From what I've seen, arborists and tree workers haven't really "discovered" the rack yet. Recreational climbers, on the other hand, are quite away of what it has to offer. I've yet to buy one. love nick