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kinda both, root rot according to a local arbortis. wedged its self against the cedar pretty tight

Unfountantiy not my job :( but if i happen to be around when they are doing i will grab a few shots :)

just thought you guys and gals might get a kick out of seeing this one :) we have had a few wind storms with lots of rain the last two weeks, it's a douglas fir. fortunately its a work shop and not a house :)