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Done, off to bed now,:sleep:

No probs, I'm after opinions not vindication. I'll call them tomorrow morning get a p&d. Make a choice, thanks for the help (and you Carl)

Good point, no idea really.

I can't get a bmg, they don't seem to want to export and no one here seems to want to fabricate one.

Invalid attachement btw.

Tipping weight is 3527lbs (US) My grab (that I use ATM) is going to be a lot heavier than the grapple (dangler or rotator) Also changing attachements is 45seconds max so I could take (f'rinstance) pallet forks which maximise lifting ability.

Drinking here, cannot promise comprehension, but will try.

I don't understand the difference.

It already has counterweights, part of the reason for getting this is the robustness of the pumps, if it'll lift it, it'll lift it (in theory!)

Yes I loads trailers and trucks, I have to load heavy pieces onto the trailer by the rear as dropping large sections from the side ruins the bed.

Cheers, the yellow one just looks like a prototype. I don't know, what harm can having it rotate do? 20kgs neither here nor there really. It would make feeding the chipper easier, no need for moving the loader around to get the brush pointing the right way.

http://www.avanttecno.com/www/global/attachments/timber-grab-rotator/#cat=0 So it looks like my search for the grapple may be over! Avant whose attachements fit Multione loaders have this, they do a dangle and a rotator version, now the one with a rotator is only 20kg more, nothing in real...