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Loading with an Avant 528 Carl sent me Cory. That is an interesting youtube video Dave, I hadn't seen it. It's amazing hearing about the boost in power people are getting from the components the company produces where they dyno tested. I rented a Ram with a 12 foot dump bed and hauled logs...

Thanks for all the input guys. I went with the Ram, should have it in a couple of weeks. I am going to have a hooklift unit installed and have more versatility with a chip bed and two dumpster boxes to haul heavy wood.

https://youtu.be/I2umztArJXg I guess people are just putting these on as insurance to try and prevent expensive fuel caused problems.

Leaning toward the Ram unless I find a reason not to Jim.

Is that water in the fuel issue and putting on an aftermarket setup only a Ford issue? It seems I marked a youtube post or two to watch later that dealt with putting on a nice aftermarket filter block on the Rams. I will check.

Wrenching and waxing, two of my weak points in life. Scott......is it time to fess up? New picture or archive?

I was going to get a class A license with no restrictions.

oh, and what I was seeing as a bit of a trend on the consumer affairs websight was a lot of expensive Ford fuel system repairs, and a lot of expensive and pull your hair out electrical problems on Rams.

I googled "problems with Ram trucks" and "problems with Ford trucks" last night and read the consumer affairs web page comments from people, it's pretty scary how expensive repairs can get on new trucks AND maybe even more than that the down time you can have waiting for dealership repairs. Ten...

That's a good point too. Maybe just buying where the price is best at time of purchase could cost me more further down the road.

Ahh. Oh...... just realized you have probably had use of a lot of new/newish trucks through the forest service Burnham. That's interesting on useful speeds Jim.

Jim the fire equipment you drive probably has some lower top speeds huh?

Has anyone seen turning radius listed anywhere? I can't find it for trucks new or old.

Yeah I just went and looked at that again and remembered why I ruled it out the first time I saw it. I don't want the added length of king cab.

Ahh, good points, thanks. A few other things I should have mentioned are that I am inclined toward the diesel engine and auto transmission whichever company I go with. Also there are three different rear end gearing choices, 4:10, 4:44, and 4:88. But other than the 4:88 having a higher rating...

I’m looking at buying a new truck that is F550/Ram 5500 size with an 11 or 12 foot chip box, L Pac tool boxes and the long pole saw box down the length of the bed. I’m looking for any strong functional reasons to go with one brand over the other. Do you have any ideas about the trucks or...