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Actually, it's a tad too flush from what I could see. I woulda come out about an inch, maybe a little less.

What an odd thread.

Oh yeah - that piece of wood was free, just scrap. ;>)

I've tried sticks, buckets, but was happiest with this. The secret is to wrap it loosely. The throwbag is buried under all of that - it's the first to start being wrapped. There are two lines and bags there.

You'll never regret the purchase, but an APTA would be cool too!

Jayus!