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  1. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Old saws is fun! I love this hobby!
  2. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Yes he is a collector also. This page is were we collectors find general specifications of saws etc. Look here: http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/6359233ddce7cc3d88256bcb0059e03e/9552240e537bfc4b882575dc004b8635?OpenDocument Check out Elmia wood also...
  3. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Mike Acres distribute it in west Canada and there is in center as well. Contact Mike he'll help you find. His E-mail is in bottom of his page here: http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/673d78ec01557aea88256b00005457e6/d8d083a8d741e3db88256c9b00780d89?OpenDocument
  4. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Thank you! This was a big help in understanding. So there is alkylate fuel in US! But is it aggressive? In the Aspen Fuel we use there is 98% by weight Alkane (Isopentan, Isohexaner, n-butan, Isobutan, Isoheptan, Isooktaner, Isononaner) Less than 0,1% of the aggressive stuff like toluene...
  5. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Does anyone know what fuel this is? Why it works is stated, but not what fuel it is. There is many synthetic products, petroleum products and mixes. Would be fun to know what this is.
  6. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Yes, about the answer I was expecting...
  7. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Yes, they make a lesser product for more money. But that will not help in understanding problem. I'll try describing it like this then: If your hose can hold water, it can hod up to any non aggressive liquid. The alcylate fuel we use is not aggressive..
  8. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    You talk about cars, saws is another ball game completely as the fuel is not the same even though it is E-85. There is another 15% and oils to add this equation + the materials used in saws vs cars.
  9. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    I agree this is just BS from start to finish. Its other reasons behind this as economical, political and industrial. But with marketing of global worming and fear of death of all life its a lot easier to sell... Fuel argument in saws for environmental reasons is even bigger BS. Another example...
  10. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Ethanol fuel (E85) doesn't give damage to rubber components when run a year in saw. Not fuel lines, seals, membranes or anything. The pistons looked like new, engine had no carbonized fuel or oil residue in it after a year of use. I think that explains quite a bit. From memory they had no...
  11. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Methanol is used in Indycar racing I think. Aliphatic alcohols we use in combustion there is: Methanol, ethanol, propanol, and butanol Interesting reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_fuel It is not a aggressive substance if you compare it to other substances like Benzene in your...
  12. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    I call methanol a Alcohol, it really isn't, but acts like many of them..
  13. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Methane nitrationed = Nitromethane. Racing fuel..
  14. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Ethanol is not a suitable solvent were other alcohols as methanol is. Methanol however has been used in two stroke combustion engines (with a oil that can mix) for a very long time without complaints... Odd isn't it?
  15. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Ethanol is not aggressive. If you have ethanol in a jar and put whatever rubber or plastic in it nothing will happen.... Almost indefinite. With a oil that can mix with it it is not a issue. If you have 10% Ethanol and use a oil that doesn't mix with alcohols, you are in trouble as 10% of fuel...
  16. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Almost everyone here run Aspen fuel as this is what the manufacturers wanted us to run since early 90's. With this there is very little fuel related issues. Now there is everal other brands of Alkylate fuels around. A word of caution when you tinker with fuels and test different fuels and oils...
  17. Magnus

    Gas damage to saw

    Gas is different in different areas. Ethanol is not the culpit in this drama, it is all other crap they have in it. I talked to a guy that set up 5 new saws to run E-85 with recin oil as lubricant. They ran them in forestry a year, pulled them down and documented everything. It was a years test...
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