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Civility? We don't have that in the PNW. Seems awfully weird. :/:

Bad attitude trees hafta die.

Not gonna happen Fi. Specially since you do some pretty rad stuff.

I know man, I hijacked it like an ass. I wanna do like maybe two more years of tree service and then try to get in with some fallers around here. Till then we'll have to rely on the real loggers who don't seem too inclined to get too many pics up. Burnham: Only too happy to BE around...

Gotcha, B. In the end, I guess I really don't know. :|: Not enough experience falling trees in the wind, thank God. :lol: Definitely hear what Sean's timber-cutter neighbor is preaching too. Those guys all talk the same way, and seem to place a lot more stock in how the back cut is poured...

Perfectly understand Stig's, Husky D's, and M.A's point about a gutted hinge being great for ripping the tree down through a tight wood. There's a ton of stuff I know that I still don't know, you guys. That's why I'm on here. Just being a tree-service guy, I love going onto logging forums and...

My obstinacy condemns me do only do what makes sense to my pea-sized cranium, untill my mates best me with the technique/theory that I was too ignorant/stubborn to adopt for myself. And I think that we would all agree that the internet is generally not enough. Burnham's argument, however is a...

Nonsense. What I think is best is so seldom what really IS best, that I do far better just to go with what the authorities (in this case you, and most other faller-types) have been saying all along. Now the gutted hinge... :/:... there's ANOTHER technique that I absolutely HATE, but for no...

Yeah... I'll say. But hang on I wanted to reply to Stephen: Man you seriously cracked me up with yer last post. And Rajan: :lol: I know, right? :beer: So Burnham: Yeah. That was not only the strongest argument I have ever heard for the straight-grain, if limited (in length) holding wood...

Yeah Rajan, like Gary said... it was the Homeowner. He was the raddest guy in the world, running around with his Stihl firewood saw. A man after my own heart. He said, "I just love the sound of a chainsaw. I grew up in Indianapolis, and where I lived, I could go outside on Saturday morning...

Burnham: You misunderstood me a bit in yer last post. Also... Could you have perhaps misunderstood (or am I misunderstanding him :|:) Stig. I don't think that he was asserting that the root-flare problem was noticeably BETTER with smaller dogs... it's just that smaller dogs are so much...

Not THAT'S what I'm talkin about!!! A good, solid refutation! Yeah... ok, the "laziness," point is a bit weak since we (all sensible folk, anyway) tend to do what's most expedient in a given situation. I concede. I still have an axe to grind about the "greater 'stump-holding' power," of the...

Sean/Kyle: Sure. But those things are all what my, "other things being equal," proviso was supposed to eliminate. Burnham: Well now... that is a real difference of opinion, and rather manfully expressed. And yet it smacks more of the argumentum ad baculum than the more cogent refutations...

From a practical standpoint though, ceterus parabus, and other things being equal, I still have to maintain that very low stumps are (ok almost always) better. I mean when the safety considerations that B, and Stig have put forth are not the main consideration, and, we are also not taking...

Butch's work. Did that guy have my nuber or what. :lol:

:|::|::|::|::|::|::|::|::|::|::|::|:.... Yet another one of the Ten Thousand things that I don't think of when I drink copious ammounts of beer and shoot my mouth off around here.

Low stumps are always better. :drink:

Jer: That pic (The double-cut Red with the 056) that Butch just threw-up on the Rotator is one of the coolest in the world. I don't think I've ever seen it in color. Looks like you "rolled" the bar down a bit on the diagonal to avoid a Dutchman. Man, that's a nice stump.