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  1. HolmenTree

    Is 404 obsolete?

    I have a ton of old 3/8" chipper chain but it doesn't compare to the modern. 404 harvester chain. I got so much stuff on hand I could just forget about treework and work out of my shop and sell that stuff, piece by piece, Haha.
  2. HolmenTree

    Is 404 obsolete?

    When I got the contract years ago to cut 54" diameter cull paper rolls in half. I was using my Stihl 090AV-60". I needed a new .404 chain and the harvester model was all my dealer had in Stock. Worked out very well as that loop of chain lasted the whole 2 months of cutting 12 hr a day 5 days a...
  3. HolmenTree

    Is 404 obsolete?

    Another note about the harvester chain. Main reason it's not recommended for hand held use is the depth gauges have no anti kickback deflection profile what so ever. It's profile is straight verticle with no side lateral defective profile also. Just like a modified race chain these depth...
  4. HolmenTree

    Is 404 obsolete?

    Jay, non chisel ,heavier chrome layer and heavier chassis. If you can find old inventory of 1/2" chain that would be heavier but chrome layer not as thick.
  5. HolmenTree

    Is 404 obsolete?

    Even better for stumping try a loop of Stihl .404H harvester chain. Not recommended for hand held use because of liability issues from the dealer, but toughest non carbide chain available to put on your saw.
  6. HolmenTree

    Is 404 obsolete?

    Lots of advantages on those big long bars like my 60 inch when it gets nice and hot.....alot less re-tensioning and chain derailing for one.
  7. HolmenTree

    Is 404 obsolete?

    I agree Jay 3/8 will handle everything and the best all in one pitch. But the big block saws with long bars suit the .404 workhorse chain nicely. Over built, durability. My experience milling lumber with my 090 ripping 16 foot slabs off a 30" diameter spruce log the .404 holds up nicely...
  8. HolmenTree

    Is 404 obsolete?

    All .404 chain made today is .063 drive link gauge. But you may find old inventory of it in .058 somewhere. I have a roll of .050 from the 1970's. Better match with .063 chain as today's rim sprockets and bar noses are now all basically .063
  9. HolmenTree

    Is 404 obsolete?

    Yep if you have big cube displacement you'll never go back to 3/8".
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