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I am really the last guy to ask.. but... 24 dbh is prime for training for me... But I feel everyone is different in comfort levels.. You pointed out two main factors so I feel you are on the right track with the spurs... Climber solid to the spar and finding a balance on the flip line. As they...

Watch as someone gaffs themselves on a 5 inch pole... I am so thankful to be self employed.

5" ?:O

Gerry really said it there... They each have their place and being on rope is huge for taking the brunt of the work off the climber. A lot less painful ... Any doubt's, get an old Klein belt (no leg straps or bosom)... a flip line and a set of spurs a do a 100 + foot climb just for shits and...

I hear another chuckle .... LOL

He's chuckling Brian... I think he knows us by reputation... LMAO

Duck and cover.. LOL My old school... Klein belt, flip line, gaffs and a positioning lanyard.... (Basically two flip lines...)

Muscle memory... I had not even considered that twist... I will have to take note of that as I try new gear and how my efficiency may be effected by it. Interesting :)

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Sorry Chip..... I love you mang!:lol::lol::lol:

One of the things that I really appreciate from the members of this forum is the training I get daily. The diversity of climb styles, accumulation of knowledge and experience, knowledge of the new and old systems and the ability and openness to share all of what you all have learned and know is...

:lol::lol::lol: I LOVE IT!