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That's what they taught us at tech, either skill up or work your way down to $5 bucks an hour- That's how the tree game works.

I think I know why the tree game is unregulated: Enforcement would be very difficult and expensive, its a different site day to day, or multiple sites in one day. Whereas a building site sits there for months ticking away, the authorities can schedule their visits very easily. With trees they...

I'm all for fair pay and conditions but unions can end up corrupt, politicized and choke productivity. If a guy is getting paid the equivalent of a burger flipper then maybe that's what he should go and do instead.

I'd fire someone if they were union, just sayin, :lol: I can see the motivation behind OP here but I think this industry has those subtle complexities that may make it difficult. How many groundies will want to fork out for fees etc?