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That's what Ive started to do in terms of full days, it makes pricing work easier and means you get more opportunity to finish early 8). I wont try to charge a half day for what is substantially less though. The other advantages of the small job market I have found is that it still pushes along...

The beautiful thing about the small job market is that under bidding is of little to no real consequence....

^ or maybe she would prefer you all cut with blunt saws all day X hourly rate hahaha. If this thread derails into one about stupid complaining customers I'm up for it:lol:

I bid only hourly where its hard to define scope such as hedge trimming or very difficult access/terrain. If a customer wanted a discount based on taking less time than they expected I would immediately lose all respect for them...

In my experience consumer markets vary drastically along geographic, cultural and moral boundaries-finding the right customers is difficult but essential to success.

:happy1: popcorn anyone? I could believe that a proficient operator in a good market can turnover 200/hr based on "site time"

just a comment as I've got no valuable advice:) I'm pretty sure plenty small operators in the tree biz use the most medieval and stoneage formulas that they can come up with...