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  1. Burnham

    4:45 pm and it's pitch black outside....

    I get it, totally. Dark well before cocktail hour is not quite civil :). I mean, hell...how am I supposed to enjoy a sunset view from my front porch at 2:45 in the afternoon??? :D
  2. Burnham

    4:45 pm and it's pitch black outside....

    We're getting about an hour more light than you, but yep, it sux. About 45 degrees north lat. here. My own home state Oregon, and other west coast states, are asking Congress to allow them to stay at Daylight Savings Time all year. As I understand it, Congress some years ago passed...
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