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Beautiful pics, Stig.

Thanks for being so accepting of my teasing without getting riled, Jed. You are a good fellow to have around.

I posited that as an alternative I would choose over cutting down low in that unreliable twisty wood we've agreed at this point is more likely than not to pull your fell off the targeted lay, Jed. To stand up to wind, you're saying you want the widest hinge available; i.e. down low in that...

Excellent post, M-A.

You are a hard man to talk sense into, Jed :D. Hate the gutted hinge??? Why ever did you come to hold that position?

You keep on doing it like you think is best, Jed. You are no newbie to the trade, and you surely are forming up some mighty pretty felling cuts these days, ground and aloft. Far ahead of where you where 6 or 8 years ago. Nonetheless, I think you are setting yourself up for regular failures...

I'm real sorry, Jed. I simply cannot follow your train of thought to have it make sense to me. I think you are way overthinking this. I'll say it again...convoluted, twisty grain is not going to reliably fold, as hingewood. Some will hold like a demon...some will break off early. No way to...

I get it better now, Stig. Thanks. It does seem to me that those same issues would occur with small dogs, but that obviously isn't true for you. Although I must point out...in your initial reply to my post re the big dogs and how I deal with that issue with them, you said "it couldn't be...

Some thoughts, Jed...mine in bold, inserted into your quoted post.

Those are some mighty remarkable flares there, Fi. Certainly an interesting way to go at them...not challenging your technique, friend...just way different than what I have had to deal with. Western red cedar is the native species local to me that is most inclined to present these deep flutes...

Ok, Jed, my friend. Here's my try at it. The bold is my attempt at addressing some of your points, which are still BS, far as I'm concerned :). Welcome your comments always, and look forward to your reply, if you wish.

Sure, Jed. I'll need to catch up with you re consumption of beverage, perhaps...but I'll go back and give it a try later this evening. That is, if at that point it seems worth my energy ;). I mean...hell, you are so off the mark here it hardly needs elaboration on my part, after all :D.

Bullshit, Jed. Just plain bare-assed bullshit. You are incorrect imltho, on every single point of your last post.

;) Jed, my friend.

No they are not, Jed, and you know it. Hazard tree felling, when the faller wants to be able to get away from the nasty deteriorated bastard as fast and nimbly as possible...smart move is to cut standing straight up, so you can most easily rabbit out of there at the first sign that things...

Absolutely true. Federal lands have a huge stock of 35 to 60 year old second growth managed stands that followed on oldgrowth clearcuts and replants, that are managed on commercial thinning cycles. Many private timberlands in the western US are doing the same. In fact, oldgrowth clearcuts are...

Right, Sean. The barbs are on one side only, at least so far as I have seen. But that doesn't keep any fool of a faller from paying no attention at all thereto :).

Those "barbed" wedges sorta work when the barbs are against wood, but stacked not at all, plastic wedge to wedge surfaces. Sawchips or grit is way better. And hear me...three or even four separate wedge sets kept fairly equally loaded will help keep any individual set from spitting out, since...

Don't forget the old trick of scattering some gritty soil or sawchips in between stacked wedges to help keep them from spitting out. Wet soil that easily turns muddy, or clay types, need not apply :)...might as well use grease.

Got that right...except the machine cost might be on the lean side :). If a harvester hasn't been over sideways out here in the Cascades, then the operator hasn't really tried to get to those last few sticks on that steeper part of the unit...yet. Although I must say, the current tribe of...