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Precisely, my old friend. We're not the only ones, I'm sure. I still have a covey of the OP Jake biners and some Industrial D's as well, and after culling and a bit of tweaking, neither is a bad biner at all. Just not up to the production standards that Rock puts out.

You can only imagine what old age is, at your still fresh state of affairs, my friend. Close perhaps, but not there yet :).

Uhhhh...no. Now Scott, do I have to go back and quote my post? That offer was for BINERS, should anyone think discarding them after two years use was wise. No offers on your sweat-stained and smelly old helmet was ever made! :P :lol:

There ya go. Thanks, M-A.

As do most of us.

Tim, take a look at the RE ORCA line of biners, while you are at it. An interesting concept, works well as far as I hear, though I have not used one myself. Not for the newbie apparently, but might serve your interests. You could ask CursedVoyce...I believe Stephen has tried one...

Oops, my bad, Tim. Best that I expand my castnet...ANYONE who wishes to retire two year old carabiners, just let me know. My offer stands :D. So far, in more than 30 years experience, my favorites are the Rock Exotica Pirate and Rock-O. There are two reasons, the first of which I think is...

A good dousing with handcleaner like Goop or Gojo, allowed to work overnight, and then some brushing with an old toothbrush and hot water from the tap will take care of most pitch issues. Myself, working in conifers mostly...never gave the ball locks a second chance...too much maintenance and...

It's not something we like to think can happen...but we better not let the blinders get settled. Watch, in spades.

Never quit looking at our life support connections, brothers. All through the climb. Never quit. Good post, Thomas. The damndest things can happen. I have a long list of them myself, as any old climber would.