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Yay, I win!! Not! Good discussion, guys.

That's not a girth hitch, bro. I could make something up and call it a cinch hitch, but that's just what I said...made up.

'Tis what I use...bomber indeed.

You'll never hurt that one, if it's the Buckingham stitched doubled webbing model...just like Nick A. says.

A bit too much blanket in that statement for me, Nick. I've seen some pretty light user-made FSs over the years. Nothing you would splice up would be in that category, btw.

Until you factor in a dynamic load. The failure point is where the cordage takes a tight bend around both legs, so the diameter of the item in the girth is irrelevant.

Yessir, you were.

Both you, Scott, and Nick, are generally correct in all you say (though I don't think the Rope Guide uses a girth hitch). I'll also maintain that I am correct. The girth hitch compromises cordage strength significantly, there is no question of that fact. If that fact then means in a...

I understand, Scott. It's weaker just because it is :). A girth hitch cuts the rated breaking strength of cordage (as any knot does), but specifically to the girth to the tune of about 50%. A spliced ring and ring FS carries around 90% of the rated breaking strength of the cordage (loss to...

We should always remember how significantly a girth hitch reduces the strength of cordage. I therefore recommend not using a girthed sling as primary life support, in my classes. I know that without a dynamic fall as part of the scenario it's unlikely to be a problem, but as a general...

Stuck they will sometimes get, no matter what. You can ease that somewhat by using your throwline to control the removal. :)

That's nice. Have you used an adjustable FS, Nick? Cat's pajamas on a clear bole.

To me, the lack of friction from the pulley is actually a bit of a negative. A ring and ring is smooth enough for me without transfering all of the DRT climbing system's required friction to the hitch alone.