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That farmers knot I'd get to about stage three and throw it across the room. I showed them the twist loop method (ABfly) then no-one was interested in the two wrap boo hoo.

Never heard of it tbh.

I tie an AB with the two twists then down and through the crossover loop, I never mastered the hand wrap way, but I'm liking that hybrid method. Tomorrow I'm teaching knots to our road crash unit newbies, will use it for sure.