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Your right on that one, my error, :|: I should have checked that out before typing. The correct name for all the different notches and cuts gets away from me because I just don't have that much use for them in the type of treework we do. A regular notch and sometimes an open face is the norm...

Nice work Gary and good pics. Just to add to the thread a little. What caused the pine to lean could also have been from J roots where the roots grow off in one direction instead of spreading out in all directions. This could be a natural occurance or caused by an underground obsticle like a...