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:lol::lol::lol: Oh so true. Which is why none of mine actually run. I took one look at the Lombard I have for a simple carb rebuild and said no way am I going to get into this today. That was three years ago. If I get one I just put it on the shelf or out in the shed with the other parts saws.

That saw was made by Frontier. Frontier also made it's counterparts like Skil, Jonserd , Lombard and a few others. I have a Frontier that looks like that one plus a couple of more of them under different brands. They are definately the smallest of the top handles.

That second Sthil looks like an 09. Those things are bad news from the get go. To me they are the hardest saws to work on. Many people complain that that top handles are hard to work on. An 09 gets my vote as the biggest PIA for such a little saw award. That includes running one also. That...