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I never wear Chaps or Sawyer pants climbing , that's just me though

... yep , the pants are superior imo. Quality of the Chaps sold has gone downhill , probably still safe but the cheap ass webbing and buckles make them worthless (the old Tiltons were great now out of business , Labonville's now suck , and forget the "Husqvarna" badged chaps with extra full...