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Auhhh....I see were your going with that ....Makes since. And it's simple. Meaning, not a lot of bs'ing around..

Well, I guess I would just put my climbing line around the tree about were my waist is, choked back to my rope bridge to take me out of the death loop, and get as much slack as I could out of it. Then, landyard in put one leg a little higher then the other using my knee to push back into both...

I'm going to give it a go hopefully tomorrow. I'll let everyone know. But, it sounds like it's going to work for me I will just try different landyard positions , and climbing line position till it works, but I know for certain that I will have to push my self back into my harness/climbing...

So, basically, I need to get two points of contact with landyard, and climbline. Gaff in a lil higher on one side, and push my weight back into both climbing systems so I'm rigid in position? Am I getting the picture right , or clear as mud?

Its difficult Thats for sure. Im goIng to try all these techniques untill I find one or more that work for me. That oak tomorrow will help me practice.

Ty tucker im going to b practiceing it tomorrow on a skinny oak. Im going to go about 3/4 the way up and top it to miss some smaller trees. Ill try and gets some more pics tomorrow.

I just wanted to take a minute and say, THANKS for all the suggestions/help.....The TreeHouse rocks and im going to make it a point to try to visit more often. 4 kids kinda hampers my online time.

Yes sir that would be awesome, I go to the stihl dealer there in Cantonement. Not far at all. If you would like I can send u my contact info? In a P.M.

Does anyone have a spar set of pole gaffs that I can barrow before I spend 100$ on gecko spikes. Any info would be helpful.

Thank you limbrat. I choke my climbline above my landyard also to rest.

thank you . Sir for the advice.

Mb has spoken. Tree gaffs im gOing to find n try.

I think ima try the pole gaffs.

Ty Joe. yea there r mixed reviews on them. Pretty much anything I research on products always seems 50/50.

Are the euro gaffs worth there weight.

Your advice will help me out by leaning back more . Don't no y I don't see it for myself. Ty sotc.

I can remove my gecko spikes also . I love them I wear my normal work boots with them with no problem.

My style is kinda close but not really . But in the top yes sir im up right more also. Also, ty for your help in the past and im not giving this up its my thing now to get better n better i still have your advice in my mind when I climb and I ALWAYS stay tied in twice. Sometimes I bring up mu...

Hey Mr. Nelson that was spoken like a professional. I sold the climb rights and bought a pair of geckos that alone made a big improvement. I still have yet to try pole gaffs which im very interested in doing but there pricey.

What is to close and to far . ? Pictures would be the most helpful if not that much trouble. :D